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 Post subject: A v X
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:42 pm 
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issue 0 is out what are your thoughts?

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Ok i had to finish reading it. damn Hope friggin crazy... no wonder the phoenix force is gravitating towards her. so shes not jean, ok but that doesnt mean they arent related. I hadnt seen her skills since i wasnt reading all the xbooks...

i like seeing women super heroes kick ass especially as a team. the opening pages were great. i actually felt sorry for scarlet witch the cuckoo head.

that being said i enjoyed the sneak peek at the writing.

and a bonus with purchase i got a free digital comic.

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 Post subject: Re: A vx X
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More cautiously optimistic than I was before, the Vision giving Wanda the brush off was the best part for me. It did feel a bit weird just seeing Wanda superheroing again after keeping a low profile for years.

I should go back and read Disassembled, one of the few Marvel events I never bothered with.

I did find the dramatis persona thing a bit weird with like 5 X-Men vs a stack of Avengers.

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it was kinda weird but i think following it up with that she said she shouldnt have tried to do it on her own and being a bit scatter brain worked. i'll get AvsX #1 but it will have to be really compelling to keep me reading (ok maybe ill buy 2 & 3 to be sure.)

i remember reading a couple of dissassembled but i couldnt get into it. plus she royally pissed me of witht he D-day stuff.

oops Mday what an idiot

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haha i just read disassembled and house of m the other day. then avengers 24.1 where the newly reconstructed vision is filled in on those two stories. so when i read avx0 he seemed to be the only one acting logically. the other avengers seemed way too eager for her return. they seem to treat her like she's the beyonder or something, from secret wars II. where they figure she's too powerful to fight so let's just be nice and hope she doesn't unmake reality again. i really liked that opening issue though, and can't wait to see where it goes from here. how those two threads tie together.

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haha i just read disassembled and house of m the other day. then avengers 24.1 where the newly reconstructed vision is filled in on those two stories. so when i read avx0 he seemed to be the only one acting logically. the other avengers seemed way too eager for her return.

Well, in between that time, they had the whole Civil War thing. If they can trust Tony again, then they can certainly trust Wanda, right? She seems a lot more sane now, whereas Tony is still the same machiavellian control freak he's always been.

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Hey Guys---I thought zero was good and from what I've seen of numero uno, looks like Ol Cyke is puttin the hurt on Cap and his kooky quartet....can't wait to read tomorrow!

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pmaestro wrote:
haha i just read disassembled and house of m the other day. then avengers 24.1 where the newly reconstructed vision is filled in on those two stories. so when i read avx0 he seemed to be the only one acting logically. the other avengers seemed way too eager for her return.

Well, in between that time, they had the whole Civil War thing. If they can trust Tony again, then they can certainly trust Wanda, right? She seems a lot more sane now, whereas Tony is still the same machiavellian control freak he's always been.


didn't tony erase his mind and have to reupload a backup? one that was taken from before civil war? happened in Iron Man the Stark Disassembled storyline. at the end, he's booted up and is like, "what did i miss?" and is told about the Civil War, the Skrull Invasion and is just in time for Siege. So... essentially the tony that made the "wrong choice" in civil war is dead and we get an alter-tony who never made those decisions, instead was told he did and was disgusted by his actions. it's like going to bed tonight and waking up a year from now to find out you slept with a girl you'd never sleep with. but... did you? existentialist questions... hmm...

but yeah, i just don't want wanda back because i don't like her costume and powers. :D

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but yeah, i just don't want wanda back because i don't like her costume and powers. :D



haha thats as good a reason as any

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didn't tony erase his mind and have to reupload a backup? one that was taken from before civil war? happened in Iron Man the Stark Disassembled storyline. at the end, he's booted up and is like, "what did i miss?" and is told about the Civil War, the Skrull Invasion and is just in time for Siege. So... essentially the tony that made the "wrong choice" in civil war is dead and we get an alter-tony who never made those decisions, instead was told he did and was disgusted by his actions. it's like going to bed tonight and waking up a year from now to find out you slept with a girl you'd never sleep with. but... did you? existentialist questions... hmm...

Are you kidding me!?!?!? Mr. "Oh, I'm a futurist. I have to wage this Civil War because I've seen the future and there's no other way." They just retconned that out? And thats why everything is all good now? FUCK!!!!... I hate Iron Man.

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 Post subject: Re: A vx X
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Wow! I never knew why all of a sudden Tony forgot all about the whole Civil War thing. So they just throw it under the rug. That's pretty shitty.

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me either that's probably the lamest storyline I've heard so far.

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They had to do something to reset him. They made him the biggest asshat in the Marvel U. You can't have your moneymaker be a complete tool with a hugely popular movie out there.

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sounds like a dollhouse house episode.

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They had to do something to reset him. They made him the biggest asshat in the Marvel U. You can't have your moneymaker be a complete tool with a hugely popular movie out there.

He is still the biggest asshat. And now he's conveniently exempt from dealing with the consequences of his actions, which makes him more of an asshat than ever. It also makes him even more untrustable than Wanda. If he forgot about all the things he did when he was drunk, then he'd still be drinking.

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Issue 0 was good a nice setup for the arc.


Just finished issue 1 Spoilers - Good 1st Issue Cyke just blasting Cap was crazy. & it does feel like Scott is getting closer & closer to becoming the new Magneto. & it does not look good for the Uncanny team with every top Avenger about to rain down on them.


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En Sabah Nur wrote:
Issue 0 was good a nice setup for the arc.


Just finished issue 1 Spoilers - Good 1st Issue Cyke just blasting Cap was crazy. & it does feel like Scott is getting closer & closer to becoming the new Magneto. & it does not look good for the Uncanny team with every top Avenger about to rain down on them.



Man, I was thinking the same thing about Cyke pre AVX. Then I read X-Sanction last night....and after reading 0 & 1 of avx, I'm not entirely convinced Cyke is going evil....if anything I think Cap was way out of line trying to detain Hope....I mean seriously....what are they gonna do with her anyways or where would they possibly put her to avoid the whole Phoenix deal.

Also, on the inside cover, I noticed Beast and Wolverine are right on the line that seperates the page.....any thoughts on that? I think Wolverine and Beast will go back to their roots and support the X-Men....especially when you see the variant cover with Wolvie and Cap fighting....

Good stuff so far, enjoying it, albeit I could use more info on background stuff.....

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Man, I was thinking the same thing about Cyke pre AVX. Then I read X-Sanction last night....and after reading 0 & 1 of avx, I'm not entirely convinced Cyke is going evil....if anything I think Cap was way out of line trying to detain Hope....I mean seriously....what are they gonna do with her anyways or where would they possibly put her to avoid the whole Phoenix deal.

Also, on the inside cover, I noticed Beast and Wolverine are right on the line that seperates the page.....any thoughts on that? I think Wolverine and Beast will go back to their roots and support the X-Men....especially when you see the variant cover with Wolvie and Cap fighting....

Good stuff so far, enjoying it, albeit I could use more info on background stuff.....


Wolverine & Beast at the end of the day are X-Men so I think they will be on there side at the end.

To me what Cyclopes did attacking Cap proves Cap's point that Scott isn't thinking rationally. Scott is a General type of character he comes up with tactical plan not just blasting Cap with his optic blast. & now he's dragged the Uncanny team into a fight with the Avengers.


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why wasn't storm on that line too?

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I think if anyone is going to cross over to the Avengers side, it's Beast. Wolverine only split with Cyclops over a very specific nurture vs. nature issue, but when it comes to the protection of all the children, including Hope, they'll both do what they need to do to keep her alive. Perhaps Wolverine doesn't know if she is better off with Cyclops or Cap right now, and is willing to let them hash it out until he knows for sure. He is what Spider-man was to Civil War. And once this hits home, Cyclops and him will be aligned.

Beast however has had more broad based problems with Cyclops. He doesn't approve of anything he does, and probably thinks that Hope is way more safe with Captain America.

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En Sabah Nur wrote:
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Man, I was thinking the same thing about Cyke pre AVX. Then I read X-Sanction last night....and after reading 0 & 1 of avx, I'm not entirely convinced Cyke is going evil....if anything I think Cap was way out of line trying to detain Hope....I mean seriously....what are they gonna do with her anyways or where would they possibly put her to avoid the whole Phoenix deal.

Also, on the inside cover, I noticed Beast and Wolverine are right on the line that seperates the page.....any thoughts on that? I think Wolverine and Beast will go back to their roots and support the X-Men....especially when you see the variant cover with Wolvie and Cap fighting....

Good stuff so far, enjoying it, albeit I could use more info on background stuff.....


Wolverine & Beast at the end of the day are X-Men so I think they will be on there side at the end.

To me what Cyclopes did attacking Cap proves Cap's point that Scott isn't thinking rationally. Scott is a General type of character he comes up with tactical plan not just blasting Cap with his optic blast. & now he's dragged the Uncanny team into a fight with the Avengers.


I think Cap provoked him by telling him it wasn't a request, but an order. He already knew he was going to fight the Avengers from X-Sanction...so him blasting Cap, from my perspective, was him acting out on knowledge he knew about from the future...and from his persepctive, if the Avengers take hope, not only are mutants screwed, but the whole world per Cables future. He knows he will have to fight the Avengers, so when they come, why not suprise them with the first shot and take the upper hand.....that would be a tactical plan to hit 'em off balance. True the Avengers came prepared, but what they don't know is that Cyke is aware they will come...for all we know Utopia is rigged to the teeth....

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